17 Comments
User's avatar
Raymond Hewitt's avatar

That pretty much parallels my own experience on a wide range of tropics. It's the way it is.

I've made it a practice to understand other points of view that they might falsify my own beliefs. I feel a sense of accomplishment when new facts of observation and logic improve my understanding. It's not a threat to me to be proven wrong. I see it all the time when people attach themselves to a set of beliefs that first appeal to them. It saves the trouble of thinking for themselves and the risk of deflating their ego.

Expand full comment
ted kicks's avatar

Great to read your response of integrity and true science .These are really unspeakable individuals who hold seemingly, a perverse and egotistical desire to confuse others over a complex subject which, when properly understood , will prove incredibly rewarding and liberating.

Ted

Expand full comment
PaPa's avatar

Jeff - thank you for your insight and understanding and pursuit of the truth. I ask the question, "Cui Bono" (for whose benefit)? The truth is such a danger to those who want to keep people confused, and in the chains of ignorance, fear, and control. The battle against tyranny is a battle for the truth.

Expand full comment
Horsea T.'s avatar

No virus or Yes virus is ultimately irrelevant and as I see it of interest only to people with much scientific understanding and knowledge. The rest of us will just glom on to whatever appeals to our basic beliefs about life. Where do I stand on this? I have no opinion on viruses because I don't have the education or IQ to unravel technical info.

A long time ago, when I was in my early 20s I just somehow figured out, probably from reading health books, that if you got sick with an acute illness (coughing, fever, debility, chills, noseblowing, spitting yellow and green stuff, or any combination thereof) it was not a calamity and was happening for a reason. That it was some sort of cleanout and re-set. It made sense to me that our bodies need an internal "bath" from time to time and that these discharges were automatic.

So, to sum up, the no virus and yes virus parties are doing some intellectual jousting. Nothing wrong with that, mind you. But pls don't expect everyone to truly understand any of this at your advanced level. It is all too deep for some of us.

I await a tongue lashing from my betters. :)

Expand full comment
Jeff Green's avatar

I agree that as one becomes more knowledgeable, certain issues become less significant in hindsight. For example, once we understand the puzzle of nutrition, the importance of learning how to be healthy diminishes to a large extent.

Having an understanding of life's complexities allows for a greater appreciation of it. In my opinion, it is crucial to seek the truth in all matters. Moreover, without a thorough understanding of one's own body, it is impossible to be adequately prepared for maintaining good health.

Often, my approach involves trying to extend goodwill to others. However, when our efforts to help others are met with hostility, problems arise. Taking dogmatic stances, as depicted in this article, is certainly not the solution. Nonetheless, I tend to view such situations as opportunities for learning and gain insights through my interactions that I can share with others who do care about the truth and love knowledge.

The matter of viruses becomes paramount when considering their significant role in shaping our species on Earth. They have proven to have a profound biological impact on life. Denying the vast evidence of such entities goes against the principles of science and hinders those on an honest pursuit of truth and is pure anti-science.

Expand full comment
Gerben's avatar

'No-Virus Members Exposed' Members of what? The truth?

No disease could ever be proven to be contagious/transmissible and non viral / non contagious viruses are by definition no viruses!

Expand full comment
Jeff Green's avatar

In the past, you have commented on my articles in support of the No-Virus cult, and I have chosen not to address it. However, it is evident that you do not understand my stance on viruses and are spreading falsehoods despite the evidence I have presented.

Understand that my community is not a platform for you to promote your delusions. If you wish to debate your viewpoint, provide precise evidence to substantiate your claims without resorting to trivial attacks, which hold no merit.

The article to which you are now responding clearly demonstrates that your group lacks an interest in "the truth." Have you read it? If you want to engage in semantic debates, let's begin by defining a virus using a contemporary definition. That can serve as our starting point.

Expand full comment
Gerben's avatar

I'ḿ no part of any cult.

We, including you, know that disease could never be proven to be transmissible.

That is way more important to know then if viruses exist or not. They do in your definition for virus and don't in mine, but that does not matter much as all the covid and plandemic nonsense is rooted in the idea that covid/disease is transmissible.

Welcome in team truth for freedom: 'no transmissible disease'!

Expand full comment
Jeff Green's avatar

Why do you persistently assert that I believe viruses are contagious? Are you familiar with my stance on viruses?

If the government orchestrated a similar event and attributed the disease to bacteria, would that imply that all bacteria cease to exist?

Furthermore, you did not provide a definition of what a virus is.

Expand full comment
Gerben's avatar

Where do you read that? I know that you know that viruses are not contagious.

.

Bacteria are proven to exist, but never to cause disease.

Most common definition of virus that I use: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/virus

.

You know that no disease could be proven to be transmissible, right?

That is most important to know.

Expand full comment
Jeff Green's avatar

With every comment, you have suggested that I believe viruses are contagious.

The definition states: "Any of a large group of submicroscopic infectious agents that are usually regarded as nonliving extremely complex molecules, that typically contain a protein coat surrounding an RNA or DNA core of genetic material but no semipermeable membrane, that are capable of growth and multiplication only in living cells, and that cause various important diseases in humans, animals, and plants"

All of that is indeed accurate, with the exception that viruses do not directly cause disease. Rather, they emerge as a result of an existing state of disease. Nonetheless, every other aspect within that definition remains correct.

Expand full comment
Gerben's avatar

Every comment while I know that your website is called virusesarenotcontagious.com/?

You must be mistaken.

.

Viruses also do not cause disease indirectly.

Toxicity, malnutrition and trauma do.

.

Do you know that no disease could ever be proven to be transmissible?

Expand full comment
Comment removed
Oct 3, 2023
Expand full comment
Jeff Green's avatar

It is evident that you have no knowledge of my identity, beliefs, written works, or statements, which is precisely why you make false claims in your comments. Your response to my article titled "Why the Disinterest?" is merely a personal attack on someone you have no familiarity with and with whom you have never engaged in conversation.

You wrote in a previous comment on another article:

"You're all text-book & petri dishes & test-tubes & microscopes. No real life learning or training. You write more like a chemist than a biologist. You appear to have no intuition, no sense of humor, and a profound failure to grasp simple logic. You're fighting an uphill battle when you're fighting the No Virus Camp. We have logic & reason on our side, and you don't."

"You don't serve any good purpose with your espousal of miseducated misinformation based on observations of artificial phenomena; unscientific experiments that usually contain no controls; and infantile, asinine appeals to authority & consensus."

Your broad claims lack any evidence to support them. Provide specific examples that demonstrate the alleged "miseducated misinformation" you refer to, including direct quotes or other tangible evidence, rather than mere assertions.

I ask: What distinguishes you from individuals like Knoll, Massey, and others? The similarity in behavior among all of you is apparent.

You also wrote:

"You're fighting an uphill battle when you're fighting the No Virus Camp. We have logic & reason on our side, and you don't. "

Since you used the word "we" in reference to the No-Virus group, I will address you as a member of that group. It appears that, in your perspective, denying reality is considered a form of logic. You certainly do not come close to having logic and reason. What has been consistently demonstrated is that your group holds a collection of anti-scientific beliefs that are absolutely delusional. Many members of your group subscribe to ideas such as flat-earth and deny fundamental biological principles. Additionally, prominent figures within the No-Virus community perpetuate outright falsehoods to their followers without pause.

Lastly, nowhere have I ever claimed that microbes cause illness. If you believe otherwise, do provide the exact quote where I made such a statement. My arguments against the No-Virus group revolve around their baseless assertions that viral particles do not exist and their overall anti-scientific claims concerning biology.

Expand full comment
Jeff Green's avatar

Your name seemed familiar, so I looked in my files. Below are some excerpts of what you wrote in an email to me in 2021 under the name 'Alexander T. Newport'.

"Hello, I appreciate your opinions & conclusions about "viruses". I am convinced they do not exist and cannot be created by mankind."

"Thank you. Good writing. I was familiar with most of what you cited. Keep doing what you feel pushed from within to do. It really does help and make a difference."

"Cheers for the reply and good writing."

Your present remarks stand in stark contrast to the ones you made earlier. It has become evident that your comments are driven by an agenda and ulterior motives, rather than genuine contribution or willingness to learn.

Additionally, in the past, you made derogatory attacks on my Bitchute page, which led to your subsequent ban there. Based on this information, you are now banned from commenting here as well. I have no tolerance for individuals who engage in personal attacks, dishonesty, and hold ulterior motives.

Expand full comment
DL's avatar

That’s where you have got it backwards and are indoctrinated with the Big Medicine/Big Pharma lies that have been perpetrated on us that microbes are out to get us! Viruses are not illness-causing, they are the RESULT of the disease state of that particular person. We have been fear-mongered & conned for a very long time to believe that viruses are outside invaders, non-living, remember... We have been conned into testing for the common cold (a simple form of detoxification) all the while testing labs, test manufacturers and jab makers are bringing in the cash! All the while folks are guinea pigs/lab rats, being kept $ick and di$ea$ed in the medical and pharma cartel$ by their drugs/meds/vaccines/antibiotics/poor care, etc. which are creating the sick inner environment of the person that is in need of toxin removal..

Expand full comment