No-Virus Members Exposed
Written by Jeff Green
No-Virus Members Exposed
Concerning No-Virus members Rod Knoll and ‘dpl’.
Those who read my previous note a few days ago are aware that I posted a comment on the Substack page of a No-Virus member named 'dpl'. My comment was specifically addressing the No-Virus belief that viruses and cell debris are synonymous. Below, you can find my original comment, which was written in a cordial and respectful manner.
dpl’s article comment:
“The electron microscopy (EM) results for the infected cultures were identical to that of the uninfected cultures which is a clear indication that a normal cell culture, without any “virus”, produces the exact same results as an infected cell culture. Which is proof that virology only ever deals with extracellular vesicles (meaning, these are cell features that you will always find in EM imagery irrespective of whether they are “infected” or not).”
My comment:
“Hello dpl,
It is not accurate to claim that viral particles and cell debris are identical in appearance. While it is true that cells will eventually break down when cultured outside the body, the breakdown of virus-infected cells display distinct differences. Viral colonies can be observed expanding outward from the cells, growing significantly larger than the cells themselves. This demonstrates that viruses are actively being produced through cellular energy. In other words, cells utilize nutrients from the culture medium to generate viruses (solvents) as a means of self-cleansing and survival.
When viruses are introduced to a culture, they can infect unstable cells within that culture and initiate the production of more viruses, aiding in apoptosis (cell breakdown) which promotes cellular survival. In the human body, which possesses various detoxification mechanisms, viruses and their toxic byproducts are efficiently regulated and moved away from cells. This is in contrast to the culture environment, which lacks the microbial helpers present in the body's microbiome. Consequently, cells in culture can only produce non-living cellular solvents (viruses) to facilitate self-cleansing. Due to the solvent nature of viruses, cells in such an environment inevitably catalyze themselves as they replicate their own solvents.
Lastly, viruses possess distinct morphological characteristics that differentiate them from mere cellular debris. Only when viruses are enveloped and feature a lipid bilayer coating can they appear as cell debris or exosomes.”
What followed was an onslaught of attacks, as commonly observed within the No-Virus cult.1 I do not use the term “cult” lightly, as No-Virus has repeatedly demonstrated that they indeed resemble a cult.
Subsequently, a No-Virus member named 'Rod Knoll' joined the conversation, initially posing what seemed like honest questions, only to later engage in a complete bait-and-switch tactic. His replies consisted of completely irrational and fringe comments, along with hostility and personal attacks. This pattern of behavior is pervasive among the entire No-Virus membership, including Christine Massey, Bill Huston, Mike Stone, Rod Knoll, dpl, and others. These individuals consistently display an inability to acknowledge any valid evidence and persistently spread delusions and falsehoods to their followers.
Hours later, Rod Knoll made the decision to delete his inflammatory comments, attempting to conceal evidence that would expose the true nature of No-Virus as a group of bullies. Fortunately, I was able to preserve almost the entire thread after I was banned from the discussion and my comments were deleted.
The Rod Knoll thread can be read below in its entirety:
Unfortunately, these individuals believe they comprehend the subject matter, but their intelligence is severely lacking. My position does not rely on genomics or antibodies to establish the existence of viruses but can rely solely on the observance of the morphology of viral structures alone. Rod Knoll and his accomplice ‘dpl’ completely misconstrued and took this straightforward comment out of context. Despite providing further clarification on the matter, Rod Knoll persisted in his lies, and hyperbolic, bombastic tone. Those within the No-Virus group are unable to cope with the unadulterated facts, leading them to resort to lashing out in response.
There were additional comments discussing the topic of isolation. 'dpl' requested me to provide definitions for "isolation" and "purification”. However, due to 'dpl's lack of understanding regarding these terms and their specific definitions within virology, he persistently and falsely argued that I was suggesting "isolation means isolation.2
The below screenshot was obtained after I was banned and my comments deleted.
No, “isolation” does not mean “Isolation”. Furthermore, isolate (i-so-lit) does not mean i-so-late. The confusion arises because members of No-Virus do not know basic virology terms, yet pretend to know more than they actually do about viruses and their existence. If No-Virus cannot get basic terminology correct, why should anyone take their statements on viruses seriously?
After correcting ‘dpl’, he doubled down further with insults and hostile attacks, eventually banning me and deleting all my comments to prevent the truth from being read.
Later on, 'dpl' once again became confused about the distinctions between different methodologies. When asked to provide a study demonstrating that viruses can be observed under EM without first being cultivated in a cell culture, I presented one.3 However, 'dpl' dismissed its validity, falsely asserting that using ground-up insects to extract a virus sample was "not directly from the sample" (confusing the host and sample as separate entities).
Thereafter, I clarified that the process of isolating a virus involves the utilization of a cell culture to demonstrate cytopathic effects (CPE) and consequently obtain an isolate. Employing cell culture is essential for showcasing CPE on cells and generating an isolate. Conversely, it is not necessary to employ cell culture to prove the existence of viruses. However, due to 'dpl's lack of understanding regarding the distinctions between different types of cultures and their respective applications, he accused me of backtracking my previous statements when I mentioned the requirement of a culture to produce an isolate. I explicitly stated that a culture is not necessary to prove the existence of viruses, but it is indispensable for demonstrating CPE and obtaining an isolate. Unfortunately, as most No-Virus members are uninformed about these facts, I am labeled as a “troll.”
Closing thoughts:
This unequivocally reveals to everyone that the No-Virus group lacks the most fundamental understanding of virology and science as a whole and is engaged in deception. The No-Virus group has consistently demonstrated a profound lack of knowledge in the field of virology, despite boldly claiming that viruses do not exist. One would expect a group making such audacious assertions to possess a basic understanding of the scientific terms within the discipline they are attempting to dismantle. The No-Virus collective operates as skilled grifters and maintains an active squad of followers who target those who dare to disagree with their baseless positions.
If any members of the No-Virus group are willing to engage in a live-stream interview with me, I am more than open to making it happen. However, it is unfortunate that the No-Virus proponents will likely refuse such an opportunity because they argue in bad faith. They are well aware that if I were to expose even a single flaw in their position, it would cause their entire argument to crumble like a row of dominoes. Consequently, they will go to great lengths to prevent such exposure from occurring.
Jeff Green
That pretty much parallels my own experience on a wide range of tropics. It's the way it is.
I've made it a practice to understand other points of view that they might falsify my own beliefs. I feel a sense of accomplishment when new facts of observation and logic improve my understanding. It's not a threat to me to be proven wrong. I see it all the time when people attach themselves to a set of beliefs that first appeal to them. It saves the trouble of thinking for themselves and the risk of deflating their ego.
Great to read your response of integrity and true science .These are really unspeakable individuals who hold seemingly, a perverse and egotistical desire to confuse others over a complex subject which, when properly understood , will prove incredibly rewarding and liberating.
Ted