Collateral Damage :the No Virus gang have waged war on the truth .Their relentless distortion of reality has lead many away from following a path to where they might have learned more of the true nature of disease and its multifaceted cause. That , in itself, is an evil .
I think now that it is more likely that most of them are grifters looking for a way to cash in on people's ignorance. There are plenty of those in conspiracy-minded circles.
There's money to be made by simply telling people what they want to hear and stoking drama. This goes on heavily and most people are seemingly unaware of it at first. It is especially prevalent in far right media.
I got kicked out of numerous places for refusing to Mask up in NY … but thanks for the advice (4 years later). No need for the link I’ll never click on it.
"i even got unmasked no test entry into urgent care"
In almost all cases, you literally cannot enter a facility’s front door, such as a nursing home, without a mask. Urgent care: we were not required to wear a mask, but it was advised. So, you likely didn’t have to fight too hard at an urgent care to avoid wearing a mask. But try that in a nursing home a couple of years ago.
I never wore a mask, never distanced, never took any protocol during the scamdemic. I got together with around 20 of us on the same page. We all danced, hugged, touched, tasted each other's drinks from the same glass and none of us got sick and no one died. By the way, when someone I knew outside of my immediate group needed help, I went right to their homes and helped with whatever they needed. I hugged them, wore no mask and simply helped another human which is exactly what germ theorists want you to avoid. Also I am 70 years old (in their so-called danger zone) Why didn't we get sick, Why didn't our associates that weren't on the same page get us sick through transmission? Maybe because there wasn't anything to transmit.
How about trusting companies that have been proven to be habitual criminals. Trusting the science coming from any companies that have been continually convicted and fined for lying to the public, falsifying test results, bribing doctors and pushing poisonous products for off label use on the public.(resulting in murder) Seems trusting these companies own studies and those produced supporting these criminals is not the proper scientific studies. So government lies, yes, lab lies, yes, CDC lies, yes. FDA lies, yes And apparently you believe these lies from these liars. And I don't. Since you are so literate in the scientific field, prove your case with scientific studies using all controls and long term neutral placebo groups for comparison.
I notice you ignored a lot of comments that your masters have not provided answers to that require critical thought .
I also see how you wiggle out of specific questions by changing to general unrelated topics ie “ big bad pharma” an obvious paltering tactic of deflection from subjects which you clearly know nothing about
What’s your degree?
You mention studies🤣?
I am interested if you even passed high school biology !!
Like I already posted ( not I alone)
As you conveniently IGNORED
LOOK UP CHICKEN POX PARTIES
Did your no virus masters forget to mention that ?
Or was the Skin Irritation phenomenon only available to only all the children after they attended it , simultaneously ?🤣🤣🤣🤣
NOW EXPLAIN HOW MEASELS - as a skin irritation also affects people who are in the same confined place!
Proceed to explain how EBOLA LASSA , DENGUE etc ( BLS 4)
Function - or is this another skin irritation phenomenon from your deep think tank
Explain how CrISPR tech works and all the millions of people who work on it ( all liars ? )
Explain how you can see viral proteins with electron microscopy and their structures and how viral vectors are used in GmO crops and agriculture Are those millions of people liars as well? Or maybe you are just full of pathetic excuses…
Lastly do not assume that truth has anything to do with the garbage you have been peddling! And I repeat IGNORANT RETARDED GARBAGE - that doesn’t live up to observable scrutiny let alone scientific scrutiny!
I have been exposing frauds like you since the anti science psy op began to take on the ignorant masses post CovidCon like a shit storm on steroids !
YOU LOT ARE THE SAME SHIT PEDDLERS AS THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY - GRAVITY DENIERS - you are either doing it on purpose or you are too dumb to comprehend basic science !
You obviously missed the stage of Piaget theory when logic was supposed to be developing
I repeat SCIENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOVT PROPAGANDA !
SO IF Someone WITH A PHD OR AN MD LIED TO YOU , THAT DOESN’T MEAN SCIENCE IS WRONG - it means you are too uneducated to know the difference !
Not the first time I see completely clueless people fall for the most ridiculous psy op lies , after they were so shocked to see that govt is not on their side !
Tom Cowan's 10/2/24 webinar dismisses bacteriophages as "anti-scientific rubbish". He starts with a paper from 1923 where scientists are speculating on the nature of bacteriophages. Based on this Cowan claims the particles are most likely just bacterial breakdown products. He then brings up the paper "Improvements in the production of purified M13 bacteriophage bio‑nanoparticle". The first sentence is "M13 bacteriophage is a well‑established versatile nano‑building block, which can be employed to produce novel self‑assembled functional materials and devices." Cowan condemns the paper for not demonstrating they don't get the same material from simple breakdown of the bacteria. Obviously since they are using "well-established" protocols they are not going to prove everything again just to satisfy doubters like Cowan. Reference 35 in the paper links to a detailed protocol for production of the bacteriophages.
Jamie Andrews was recently interviewed by Eric Coppolino. Unlike most interviewers Eric asked Jamie some questions he had a difficult time answering. I don't think Jamie wants the interview to be widely viewed, so he mentioned it in a Note on his Substack instead of posting it prominently on the front page.
The point is made in the paper, if Cowan had the patience and intelligence to read it. He is only interested in coming up with ludicrous analogies and laughing all the way to the bank.
Why are you conflating money and virus existence? So, because corrupt industries exist, or money is involved, that means viruses don’t exist? Is it possible for you to be logical in your thinking?
It is logical to follow the money. Virology is full of support from government dollars ( stolen tax dollars). Actually billions of dollars. Criminals supporting criminality is the common theme. And government has never been anything but criminal. I have sent many other articles dealing with the virus (Theory) and people haven’t addressed them and proven their case, and yet I haven’t resorted to name calling as has been done to me in this article. Stand up and Prove your case in front of those making the challenge Cowan, Kaufman, Lanka, Baileys and others or go talk to someone else.
Flat earth and the rest of the anti science brigade are govt sponsored shills milking the gullible , scientifically illiterate is their grift .
I just had a nice run in with a real nutcase by the name of TIM WEST who is raising money for his “no virus proof” - he deleted entire threads of my comments .
And not only mine !
It’s clear there is no discussion allowed.
This follows the same pattern of debate as with Flat Earth Cult
Flat earth and the rest of the anti science brigade are govt sponsored shills milking the gullible , scientifically illiterate is their grift targets
I just had a nice run in with a real nutcase by the name of TIM WEST who is raising money for his “no virus proof” - he deleted entire threads of my comments .
And not only mine !
It’s clear there is no discussion allowed.
This follows the same pattern of debate as with Flat Earth Cult
I ran across a very interesting paper using several scientific tools to address a real-life problem. Derek Lowe has a brief article "Cryo-EM to the Rescue" here:
Jeff, fantastic site . You provide an oasis of sanity in a desert of lies
May I ask meanwhile ,has your overall view of the intent of the Covid vaccine programme been in any way altered following data revealed by whistle blowers , the emergence of the No Virus gang and your first News Letters and if so, what in particular would you wish to highlight?
If viruses such as SARS-CoV-2, measles, HIV etc exist, why hasn't it been possible to purify them directly from sample? I know the official excuse is that they need a host to survive, but that's illogical because they would need to get from one cell to the other. Therefore, infected sample should be teeming with virions in transit.
The failure to purify them directly from sample and the need to resort to convoluted methodologies that rely on flawed assumptions and circular logic in order to pretend they've been demonstrated to be present in sample taken from a sick person is logical proof that they don't exist.
If P (viruses exist), Then Q (they could be purified from sample)
Not Q, therefore Not P
I see you referred to phages in another post, and the ability to purify phages and exosomes directly is further proof that there's no reason that the same couldn't be done for viruses - or 'animal and human viruses' if you wish to call phages and giant viruses 'viruses'.
I agree that flat earth is an irrational idea, but the only connection with the no-virus argument is that some people endorse them both and that they're both non-mainstream positions.
Irrational idea - is when droves of scientifically illiterate minions begin social media campaign to destroy centuries of scientific accomplishment -
Plenty of grifters milking useful idiots since the “trust the science” propaganda perpetuated by non scientists or paid to ignore science ( scientists) have become a catch phrase for the tik tok educated sheep
🤣🤣🤡 Cell Culture, Limiting Dilution, and Virus Isolation
We used Vero CCL-81 cells for isolation and initial passage. We cultured Vero E6, Vero CCL-81, HUH 7.0, 293T, A549, and EFKB3 cells in Dulbecco minimal essential medium (DMEM) supplemented with heat-inactivated fetal bovine serum (5% or 10%) and antibiotics/antimycotics (GIBCO, We used both NP and OP swab specimens for virus isolation. For isolation, limiting dilution, and passage 1 of the virus, we pipetted 50 μL of serum-free DMEM into columns 2–12 of a 96-well tissue culture plate, then pipetted 100 μL of clinical specimens into column 1 and serially diluted 2-fold across the plate. We then trypsinized and resuspended Vero cells in DMEM containing 10% fetal bovine serum, 2× penicillin/streptomycin, 2× antibiotics/antimycotics, and 2× amphotericin B at a concentration of 2.5 × 105 cells/mL. We added 100 μL of cell suspension directly to the clinical specimen dilutions and mixed gently by pipetting. We then grew the inoculated cultures in a humidified 37°C incubator in an atmosphere of 5% CO2 and observed for cytopathic effects (CPEs) daily. We used standard plaque assays for SARS-CoV-2, which were based on SARS-CoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) protocols (9,10).
When CPEs were observed, we scraped cell monolayers with the back of a pipette tip. We used 50 μL of viral lysate for total nucleic acid extraction for confirmatory testing and sequencing. We also used 50 μL of virus lysate to inoculate a well of a 90% confluent 24-well plate.
😆😆Use a dictionary to look up all the above and that won’t help because you would actually need to be familiar with SCIENCE and scientific method -
Alive, dead, virus, no-virus - it doesn't matter at this point.
The time wasting denialists are social engineers.
In terms of biological weapons, if they want to kill us they can - using nano particulate agents (that can mimic illnesses) or any other method they choose at this point.
Already responded to a few of scientifically illiterate cretins
PROOF - Electron microscopy, especially techniques like transmission electron microscopy (TEM) and cryo-electron microscopy (cryo-EM), helps in understanding the intricate structure of viruses, including their proteins, and how they interact with host cells.CRISPR TECHNOLOGY- based on that the viruses are modified and used in GMO
Are you familiar with CHICKEN POX VIRUS -
Or are you going to argue that pox virus is also skin irritation
I wish you lying skanks would quit pretzeling out of your miserable stupidity
Why dont you and a bunch of your no virus society friends including Lanka - take a tour of BSL 4 - Marburg or Lassa containment without the positive pressure suits ?👍
We shall see how the very specific symptoms of these “no viruses” affect these virology deniers
In Fact we should create a FUND equivalent to that of “no virus society” and arrange a televised live feed …
Maybe have a series where science deniers outwit themselves with ever more outrageous balderdash -
their non-possession of a virus isolate meant for the validation of the PCR tests they developed is a different issue
As the other poster already pointed out :
“developers did not themselves have access to a virus isolate, but they didn’t need to; they developed their tests to detect specific RNA sequences based on the published whole genome of the target virus.”
So Massey is simply lying when the developers responded they had no isolate 🤡 they never needed an isolate 👍
The people mentioned have answered the virus questions over and over and have left books studies and videos describing their stance and what information they found on the subject. They also offered to debate those who felt they had another answer and no one would accept that. So why not approach Cowan, Kaufman, Massey, Lanka, Baileys, Falconer and others instead of talking behind their back. You know by now that after over 200 medical and scientific entities have been approached and questioned about the existence of a virus and have returned the same answer over and over. We don't not have that information available. Transmission studies have proven over and over that illness is not transmitted between humans. Milton J. Rosenau and many more.
Do you even have a degree in medical science to continue spreading this moronic drivel?
Lanka was a FRAUD AND A LIAR AND HE MOST CERTAINLY LOST !!
HIS AWARD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THEORY AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH AMOUNT OF PAGES THAT THE STUDY HAD TO BE PUBLISHED ON ! So it’s just - MORE IGNORANT NONSENSE- the fact that you bring up this stellar fraud tells me everything about you lot!
Psy op peddling cult of scientifically illiterate useful idiots - NO DIFFERENT THAN THE FLAT EARTH PSY OP PUSHED BY GOVT SHILLS FOLLOWED BY ILLITERATE UNEDUCATED FOOLS SPREADING IGNORANCE ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA
You do have a leaning towards name calling and criticism. We all need to look at the evidence and find the truth. So far the results of my studies have shown people not to fear a virus and not to take deadly protocol that has proven to kill and maim for decades. The virus theory has spread fear through the populous, caused people to take all kinds of deadly protocol like vaccines, That have never been proven as a benefit for keeping one well. It has brought in billions for proven, convicted and fined criminal organizations called pharmaceutical companies. My view if accepted could put these criminals out of business. They are very beholding to people like yourself that keep their companies afloat, so they can murder millions more and suck billions out of tax payers pockets. Look very closely at your studies and try to determine why these criminals are 100% on your side and those that oppose your statement have lost their jobs, their prestige and sometimes their lives, to bring out the evidence they found. In the end, I support those who care enough about their fellow man to loose it all and you care about supporting a criminal cartel that has never done anything honest in their entire existence.
I notice you ignored a lot of comments that your masters have not provided answers to that require critical thought .
I also see how you wiggle out of specific questions by changing to general unrelated topics ie “ big bad pharma” an obvious paltering tactic of deflection from subjects which you clearly know nothing about
What’s your degree?
You mention studies🤣?
I am interested if you even passed high school biology !!
Like I already posted ( not I alone)
As you conveniently IGNORED
LOOK UP CHICKEN POX PARTIES
Did your no virus masters forget to mention that ?
Or was the Skin Irritation phenomenon only available to only all the children after they attended it , simultaneously ?🤣🤣🤣🤣
NOW EXPLAIN HOW MEASELS - as a skin irritation also affects people who are in the same confined place!
Proceed to explain how EBOLA LASSA , DENGUE etc ( BLS 4)
Function - or is this another skin irritation phenomenon from your deep think tank
Explain how CrISPR tech works and all the millions of people who work on it ( all liars ? )
Explain how you can see viral proteins with electron microscopy and their structures and how viral vectors are used in GmO crops and agriculture Are those millions of people liars as well? Or maybe you are just full of pathetic excuses…
Lastly do not assume that truth has anything to do with the garbage you have been peddling! And I repeat IGNORANT RETARDED GARBAGE - that doesn’t live up to observable scrutiny let alone scientific scrutiny!
I have been exposing frauds like you since the anti science psy op began to take on the ignorant masses post CovidCon like a shit storm on steroids !
YOU LOT ARE THE SAME SHIT PEDDLERS AS THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY - GRAVITY DENIERS - you are either doing it on purpose or you are too dumb to comprehend basic science !
Chicken pox parties sound like pretty good scientific studies with all controls in place. Correlation does not prove causation. Just keep supporting your criminal companies and the criminal government that extorts tax payer dollars keep virology in existence. We know where your loyalty lies. The rest of us will try to keep mankind free from those same criminal organizations and will keep exposing the criminal government that you bow down and serve.
Chicken pox parties - prove exactly that a virus spreads in the confines of space and unrelated healthy individuals aka children get identical symptoms within a given time frame !
The irrational psychotic humorous theory that skin lesions of pox virus is “irritation” is a satirical joke on the gullible fools like you that can’t comprehend simple logic .
I am certain grasping concept of gravity is extremely difficult for your ilk as well
The rest of your comment was a tactic in deflection
I am not supporting any criminal companies you dolt 🤡
I never said I support govt sponsored lies 🐑
Again you deflected and changed topics like a good FE No Virus psy op minion !
All of you criminally insane STEM illiterates follow the pattern of deflection when you cornered with questions your masters have not handed answers to -
So I’ll keep repeating till you answer or stfu !
Repost: “” 👉🏻I notice you ignored a lot of comments that your masters have not provided answers to that require critical thought .
I also see how you wiggle out of specific questions by changing to general unrelated topics ie “ big bad pharma” an obvious paltering tactic of deflection from subjects which you clearly know nothing about
What’s your degree?
You mention studies🤣?
I am interested if you even passed high school biology !!
Like I already posted ( not I alone)
As you conveniently IGNORED
LOOK UP CHICKEN POX PARTIES
Did your no virus masters forget to mention that ?
Or was the Skin Irritation phenomenon only available to only all the children after they attended it , simultaneously ?🤣🤣🤣🤣
NOW EXPLAIN HOW MEASELS - as a skin irritation also affects people who are in the same confined place!
Proceed to explain how EBOLA LASSA , DENGUE etc ( BLS 4)
Function - or is this another skin irritation phenomenon from your deep think tank
Explain how CrISPR tech works and all the millions of people who work on it ( all liars ? )
Explain how you can see viral proteins with electron microscopy and their structures and how viral vectors are used in GmO crops and agriculture Are those millions of people liars as well? Or maybe you are just full of pathetic excuses…
Lastly do not assume that truth has anything to do with the garbage you have been peddling! And I repeat IGNORANT RETARDED GARBAGE - that doesn’t live up to observable scrutiny let alone scientific scrutiny!
I have been exposing frauds like you since the anti science psy op began to take on the ignorant masses post CovidCon like a shit storm on steroids !
YOU LOT ARE THE SAME SHIT PEDDLERS AS THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY - GRAVITY DENIERS - you are either doing it on purpose or you are too dumb to comprehend basic science !
Also the education status and plaques on the wall have no bering on the truth. You are a perfect example of that. I am educated enough to know that I shouldn’t and won’t follow and support the criminals as you do. I have a little morality to follow in my life. I understand that you had to leave that at the door when entering schooling in virology. So your statements and support of criminals is understandable.
I have given you answers and you don’t like them. You are a paid shill of the government. All hospitals and clinics of (virology) a funded by extorted tax payer dollars. The studies on vaccines are tax supported. Without monies extorted from the pockets of the public, your field would cease to exist. You are work for the criminal government and the criminal organizations that steal from the rest of us and then poison those that believe your lies.
My view on the Bailey's is that they are constantly pushing false narratives that are completely false and anti-scientific. They also have thousands of followers which makes them more impactful if spreading falsehoods. Truthful reporting is highly important and cannot be understated.
Mafia? I'm one person with no connection to anyone. Most of your posts reek of No-Virus memberhood, 'defender of the faith'. And they're not "Truth tellers"—not by a long shot. Many of them are liars and grifters that are saying the most absurd nonsense imaginable. If they get to claim their nonsense, I also have the right to call it into question.
Just because you haven’t somehow contracted a virus doesn’t mean viruses don’t exist. Whether or not you develop a virus depends on various factors—time of year, weather conditions, the health of your cells, and more. These factors affect whether your cells are susceptible. Only a fool would claim something doesn’t exist simply because they haven’t experienced it firsthand. That’s not science—it’s an assumptive statement with no scientific backing. And are you claiming you've never had a virus in your entire life? If so, that's an impossibility.
Your comment is also contradictory. If your friends and family have had 'CoNViD' and you haven't, are you suggesting they’re lying? What about the flu—do you believe that’s a real virus? Can you explain what causes the symptoms typically associated with viral illnesses?
Also, you emailed me this today,
"sounds like the mafia has threatened truth tellers. or maybe you were DPL ?
why not show your own face and do videos ??
🤔🤔🤔"
Why don't you show your face? No profile picture. I wasn't DPL. Maybe you were DPL? And as for the idea of a 'mafia' trying to destroy the No-Virus stance—there isn’t one. They discredited themselves by lying and distorting the actual science. A small group, including myself, simply pointed out the facts, and they couldn’t refute them.
They’re the ones acting like a mafia, trying to tear down those of us doing real scientific research into viruses and their causes. You’re free to live in a delusion where viruses don’t exist, but you’re wrong—and it’s only a matter of time before you realize that.
It's not just me claiming they exist. Thousands of scientists over nearly 90 years have actually showed them to exist, unequivocally.
"and just bec you claim they exist doesnt mean they do by your own logic."
So, if something exists, we should all pretend it doesn't exist because knowledge of your surroundings personally means nothing to you? Ignorance breeds contempt.
Collateral Damage :the No Virus gang have waged war on the truth .Their relentless distortion of reality has lead many away from following a path to where they might have learned more of the true nature of disease and its multifaceted cause. That , in itself, is an evil .
That is their job they are social engineers.
I think now that it is more likely that most of them are grifters looking for a way to cash in on people's ignorance. There are plenty of those in conspiracy-minded circles.
There's money to be made by simply telling people what they want to hear and stoking drama. This goes on heavily and most people are seemingly unaware of it at first. It is especially prevalent in far right media.
Exactly
Plenty of people who believe in viruses also “turned away from pharma & all shots”.
Your crew ain't saving anyone.
Since no vaccine (shot) has ever been proven to save a human life, It would be nice if everyone would turn away from them.
And then again nothing to do with SCIENCE AND VIROLOGY
They can’t process logic
And that again has NOTHING TO DO ON WHETHER or not viruses exist
Which they most certainly do
"www.viroliegy.com"—there's most of your problem right there. And you believed it. Nothing but disinformation comes from Stone.
I think Toni may be a bot
Viruses are not fake
You are an illiterate bot
I got kicked out of numerous places for refusing to Mask up in NY … but thanks for the advice (4 years later). No need for the link I’ll never click on it.
"i even got unmasked no test entry into urgent care"
In almost all cases, you literally cannot enter a facility’s front door, such as a nursing home, without a mask. Urgent care: we were not required to wear a mask, but it was advised. So, you likely didn’t have to fight too hard at an urgent care to avoid wearing a mask. But try that in a nursing home a couple of years ago.
I never wore a mask, never distanced, never took any protocol during the scamdemic. I got together with around 20 of us on the same page. We all danced, hugged, touched, tasted each other's drinks from the same glass and none of us got sick and no one died. By the way, when someone I knew outside of my immediate group needed help, I went right to their homes and helped with whatever they needed. I hugged them, wore no mask and simply helped another human which is exactly what germ theorists want you to avoid. Also I am 70 years old (in their so-called danger zone) Why didn't we get sick, Why didn't our associates that weren't on the same page get us sick through transmission? Maybe because there wasn't anything to transmit.
Understanding science means understanding the science behind the shots
You are scientifically illiterate therefore you draw parallels : govt lies = science bad 🤡
Your logic is non existent
How about trusting companies that have been proven to be habitual criminals. Trusting the science coming from any companies that have been continually convicted and fined for lying to the public, falsifying test results, bribing doctors and pushing poisonous products for off label use on the public.(resulting in murder) Seems trusting these companies own studies and those produced supporting these criminals is not the proper scientific studies. So government lies, yes, lab lies, yes, CDC lies, yes. FDA lies, yes And apparently you believe these lies from these liars. And I don't. Since you are so literate in the scientific field, prove your case with scientific studies using all controls and long term neutral placebo groups for comparison.
CDC fbi cia dea
All of that govt shit is unrelated to what was brought up which you FAILED TO ANSWER
Learn to focus on topic
You stem illiterates can’t argue anything without deflecting into unrelated subjects
Typical of flat earthers as well
I notice you ignored a lot of comments that your masters have not provided answers to that require critical thought .
I also see how you wiggle out of specific questions by changing to general unrelated topics ie “ big bad pharma” an obvious paltering tactic of deflection from subjects which you clearly know nothing about
What’s your degree?
You mention studies🤣?
I am interested if you even passed high school biology !!
Like I already posted ( not I alone)
As you conveniently IGNORED
LOOK UP CHICKEN POX PARTIES
Did your no virus masters forget to mention that ?
Or was the Skin Irritation phenomenon only available to only all the children after they attended it , simultaneously ?🤣🤣🤣🤣
NOW EXPLAIN HOW MEASELS - as a skin irritation also affects people who are in the same confined place!
Proceed to explain how EBOLA LASSA , DENGUE etc ( BLS 4)
Function - or is this another skin irritation phenomenon from your deep think tank
Explain how CrISPR tech works and all the millions of people who work on it ( all liars ? )
Explain how you can see viral proteins with electron microscopy and their structures and how viral vectors are used in GmO crops and agriculture Are those millions of people liars as well? Or maybe you are just full of pathetic excuses…
Lastly do not assume that truth has anything to do with the garbage you have been peddling! And I repeat IGNORANT RETARDED GARBAGE - that doesn’t live up to observable scrutiny let alone scientific scrutiny!
I have been exposing frauds like you since the anti science psy op began to take on the ignorant masses post CovidCon like a shit storm on steroids !
YOU LOT ARE THE SAME SHIT PEDDLERS AS THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY - GRAVITY DENIERS - you are either doing it on purpose or you are too dumb to comprehend basic science !
You are a waste of time for people who actually care about people. See you.
What does caring about people have to do with a FACT THAT YOU ARE A UNEDUCATED DUMB ASS ?
WHY DO YOU JUST RUN YOUR VIRTUE SIGNALING IGNORANT MOUTH ?
IF YOU FLAT EARTH NO VIRUS IMBECILES CARED ABOUT ANYTHING ASIDE FROM RUNNING YOUR MOUTH
YOU WOULD TRY TO LEARN THE BASICS OF SUBJECTS YOU KNOW ZILCH ABOUT - THATS CRYSTAL CLEAR ( copy paste you tube PHD)
One has to wonder what level of drugs one must be on to establish such immunity to evidence and learning
Just as globe has been proven beyond any doubt for 2500+ years
So have viruses been identified studied and used in almost every aspect of technology around the globe
And again - you FAILED TO ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS POSED
AS EXPECTED FROM SCIENCE DENYING SHIT PEDDLERS
You must be daft buddy
Science is not the same as govt
You obviously missed the stage of Piaget theory when logic was supposed to be developing
I repeat SCIENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOVT PROPAGANDA !
SO IF Someone WITH A PHD OR AN MD LIED TO YOU , THAT DOESN’T MEAN SCIENCE IS WRONG - it means you are too uneducated to know the difference !
Not the first time I see completely clueless people fall for the most ridiculous psy op lies , after they were so shocked to see that govt is not on their side !
Yep this is flat earthers society psy op bundle
Tom Cowan's 10/2/24 webinar dismisses bacteriophages as "anti-scientific rubbish". He starts with a paper from 1923 where scientists are speculating on the nature of bacteriophages. Based on this Cowan claims the particles are most likely just bacterial breakdown products. He then brings up the paper "Improvements in the production of purified M13 bacteriophage bio‑nanoparticle". The first sentence is "M13 bacteriophage is a well‑established versatile nano‑building block, which can be employed to produce novel self‑assembled functional materials and devices." Cowan condemns the paper for not demonstrating they don't get the same material from simple breakdown of the bacteria. Obviously since they are using "well-established" protocols they are not going to prove everything again just to satisfy doubters like Cowan. Reference 35 in the paper links to a detailed protocol for production of the bacteriophages.
Jamie Andrews was recently interviewed by Eric Coppolino. Unlike most interviewers Eric asked Jamie some questions he had a difficult time answering. I don't think Jamie wants the interview to be widely viewed, so he mentioned it in a Note on his Substack instead of posting it prominently on the front page.
Cowan still opened the opportunity to prove your point. Why not take him up on that?
The point is made in the paper, if Cowan had the patience and intelligence to read it. He is only interested in coming up with ludicrous analogies and laughing all the way to the bank.
Tell him that in person, not me. And virology itself laughs all the way to the bank while being paid by millions of extorted tax payer dollars.
Why are you conflating money and virus existence? So, because corrupt industries exist, or money is involved, that means viruses don’t exist? Is it possible for you to be logical in your thinking?
It is logical to follow the money. Virology is full of support from government dollars ( stolen tax dollars). Actually billions of dollars. Criminals supporting criminality is the common theme. And government has never been anything but criminal. I have sent many other articles dealing with the virus (Theory) and people haven’t addressed them and proven their case, and yet I haven’t resorted to name calling as has been done to me in this article. Stand up and Prove your case in front of those making the challenge Cowan, Kaufman, Lanka, Baileys and others or go talk to someone else.
You're making emotional appeals and not answering the question. Why are you conflating money with the existence of viruses?
You still think Lanka won the measles challenge !
Are you a toddler?
You clearly have difficulties distinguishing facts from fantasy
Flat earth and the rest of the anti science brigade are govt sponsored shills milking the gullible , scientifically illiterate is their grift .
I just had a nice run in with a real nutcase by the name of TIM WEST who is raising money for his “no virus proof” - he deleted entire threads of my comments .
And not only mine !
It’s clear there is no discussion allowed.
This follows the same pattern of debate as with Flat Earth Cult
https://substack.com/@truth1011/note/c-129338309?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=2b4clr
I addressed Tim West last year.
See: https://jeffgreenhealth.substack.com/p/how-i-was-greeted-by-mike-yeadon
Flat earth and the rest of the anti science brigade are govt sponsored shills milking the gullible , scientifically illiterate is their grift targets
I just had a nice run in with a real nutcase by the name of TIM WEST who is raising money for his “no virus proof” - he deleted entire threads of my comments .
And not only mine !
It’s clear there is no discussion allowed.
This follows the same pattern of debate as with Flat Earth Cult
https://substack.com/@truth1011/note/c-129338309?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=2b4clr
I ran across a very interesting paper using several scientific tools to address a real-life problem. Derek Lowe has a brief article "Cryo-EM to the Rescue" here:
https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/cryo-em-rescue
The paper, "Cryo-EM-based discovery of a pathogenic parvovirus causing epidemic mortality by black wasting disease in farmed beetles", is here:
https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(24)00885-7
The authors even point out aspects of the research that fulfill Koch's postulates.
I have to admit much of the genetics work is beyond me.
Well that did not go well :🤡
Jamie Andrews
——Jeff is a delusional fantasist that doesn't address the science presented either.
One last go... have you any rebuttal to the science presented?
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Soma 15m
——You haven't presented any science that is worth a rebuttal
I can also clearly see the target audience of your so called "science"
They are quite scientifically illiterate uneducated gullible lot ! Smells like extension of flat earth psy op for the dumbed down masses
Jamie Andrews 9m
————-You are projecting. Blocked.
https://substack.com/@controlstudies/note/c-130423960?r=276kf7&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
He blocked me as well
Jeff, fantastic site . You provide an oasis of sanity in a desert of lies
May I ask meanwhile ,has your overall view of the intent of the Covid vaccine programme been in any way altered following data revealed by whistle blowers , the emergence of the No Virus gang and your first News Letters and if so, what in particular would you wish to highlight?
If viruses such as SARS-CoV-2, measles, HIV etc exist, why hasn't it been possible to purify them directly from sample? I know the official excuse is that they need a host to survive, but that's illogical because they would need to get from one cell to the other. Therefore, infected sample should be teeming with virions in transit.
The failure to purify them directly from sample and the need to resort to convoluted methodologies that rely on flawed assumptions and circular logic in order to pretend they've been demonstrated to be present in sample taken from a sick person is logical proof that they don't exist.
If P (viruses exist), Then Q (they could be purified from sample)
Not Q, therefore Not P
I see you referred to phages in another post, and the ability to purify phages and exosomes directly is further proof that there's no reason that the same couldn't be done for viruses - or 'animal and human viruses' if you wish to call phages and giant viruses 'viruses'.
I agree that flat earth is an irrational idea, but the only connection with the no-virus argument is that some people endorse them both and that they're both non-mainstream positions.
Irrational idea - is when droves of scientifically illiterate minions begin social media campaign to destroy centuries of scientific accomplishment -
Plenty of grifters milking useful idiots since the “trust the science” propaganda perpetuated by non scientists or paid to ignore science ( scientists) have become a catch phrase for the tik tok educated sheep
Here is the isolation of sars cov virus ,
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711
🤣🤣🤡 Cell Culture, Limiting Dilution, and Virus Isolation
We used Vero CCL-81 cells for isolation and initial passage. We cultured Vero E6, Vero CCL-81, HUH 7.0, 293T, A549, and EFKB3 cells in Dulbecco minimal essential medium (DMEM) supplemented with heat-inactivated fetal bovine serum (5% or 10%) and antibiotics/antimycotics (GIBCO, We used both NP and OP swab specimens for virus isolation. For isolation, limiting dilution, and passage 1 of the virus, we pipetted 50 μL of serum-free DMEM into columns 2–12 of a 96-well tissue culture plate, then pipetted 100 μL of clinical specimens into column 1 and serially diluted 2-fold across the plate. We then trypsinized and resuspended Vero cells in DMEM containing 10% fetal bovine serum, 2× penicillin/streptomycin, 2× antibiotics/antimycotics, and 2× amphotericin B at a concentration of 2.5 × 105 cells/mL. We added 100 μL of cell suspension directly to the clinical specimen dilutions and mixed gently by pipetting. We then grew the inoculated cultures in a humidified 37°C incubator in an atmosphere of 5% CO2 and observed for cytopathic effects (CPEs) daily. We used standard plaque assays for SARS-CoV-2, which were based on SARS-CoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) protocols (9,10).
When CPEs were observed, we scraped cell monolayers with the back of a pipette tip. We used 50 μL of viral lysate for total nucleic acid extraction for confirmatory testing and sequencing. We also used 50 μL of virus lysate to inoculate a well of a 90% confluent 24-well plate.
😆😆Use a dictionary to look up all the above and that won’t help because you would actually need to be familiar with SCIENCE and scientific method -
Alive, dead, virus, no-virus - it doesn't matter at this point.
The time wasting denialists are social engineers.
In terms of biological weapons, if they want to kill us they can - using nano particulate agents (that can mimic illnesses) or any other method they choose at this point.
Koch’s postulates be damned.
I love reading what people use to debunk the 'no virus' narrative.
Basically nothing here is added.
Using comments like flat earth are used to distract from reading.
Flat earth and no virus bullshit are a bundle of psy op s for STEM illiterates
That’s a fact
And their arguments and tactics are identical
You want to be taken seriously take a science course
What no virus narrative ?
You mean unscientific fraud that is perpetuated by govt shills for idiots?
That is called “no virus theory”
Bordering on same shit as “no gravity theory”
That's exactly my argument.
Trying to side line it with other stuff.
I remember someone arguments against this.
They never actually disproved any of their arguments.
Just discredit them and not discuss the points they used.
Using ‘no gravity ‘ suggest that perhaps its true. There is no virus.
Thanks for your help here. 👌
They weren’t disproved because lies and fiction have no bearing on reality
Gravity exists
Viruses exist
It’s an undeniable fact unless you are a paid grifter or an j educated sheep
Thank you for your comments.
I don't quite understand the last bit of your comment. “an j educated sheep”. Perhaps you can explain what you were trying to say.
Now where has a virus been proven to cause disease in a human. Also how was contagion proven.
Without the need for ancillary products given to people.
Already responded to a few of scientifically illiterate cretins
PROOF - Electron microscopy, especially techniques like transmission electron microscopy (TEM) and cryo-electron microscopy (cryo-EM), helps in understanding the intricate structure of viruses, including their proteins, and how they interact with host cells.CRISPR TECHNOLOGY- based on that the viruses are modified and used in GMO
Are you familiar with CHICKEN POX VIRUS -
Or are you going to argue that pox virus is also skin irritation
I wish you lying skanks would quit pretzeling out of your miserable stupidity
Why dont you and a bunch of your no virus society friends including Lanka - take a tour of BSL 4 - Marburg or Lassa containment without the positive pressure suits ?👍
We shall see how the very specific symptoms of these “no viruses” affect these virology deniers
In Fact we should create a FUND equivalent to that of “no virus society” and arrange a televised live feed …
Maybe have a series where science deniers outwit themselves with ever more outrageous balderdash -
Nowhere?
Really ?
Maybe because you are scientifically illiterate
It’s been proven for centuries
As is globe earth
Why I bring the globe into this - because the hillbilly idiots that peddle flat earth are also the ones pushing no virus garbage
Except there is
Here is the isolation of sars cov virus ,
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711
Cell Culture, Limiting Dilution, and Virus Isolation!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947
👍
their non-possession of a virus isolate meant for the validation of the PCR tests they developed is a different issue
As the other poster already pointed out :
“developers did not themselves have access to a virus isolate, but they didn’t need to; they developed their tests to detect specific RNA sequences based on the published whole genome of the target virus.”
So Massey is simply lying when the developers responded they had no isolate 🤡 they never needed an isolate 👍
The people mentioned have answered the virus questions over and over and have left books studies and videos describing their stance and what information they found on the subject. They also offered to debate those who felt they had another answer and no one would accept that. So why not approach Cowan, Kaufman, Massey, Lanka, Baileys, Falconer and others instead of talking behind their back. You know by now that after over 200 medical and scientific entities have been approached and questioned about the existence of a virus and have returned the same answer over and over. We don't not have that information available. Transmission studies have proven over and over that illness is not transmitted between humans. Milton J. Rosenau and many more.
All those people you mentioned are grifting liars
And you basically parroting their agenda as you have no educational background to comprehend the satirical bullshit they are peddling
Are you also a flat earther?
You sound JUST LIKE A CULT of science deniers
Why do you always LIE
Do you even have a degree in medical science to continue spreading this moronic drivel?
Lanka was a FRAUD AND A LIAR AND HE MOST CERTAINLY LOST !!
HIS AWARD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THEORY AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH AMOUNT OF PAGES THAT THE STUDY HAD TO BE PUBLISHED ON ! So it’s just - MORE IGNORANT NONSENSE- the fact that you bring up this stellar fraud tells me everything about you lot!
Psy op peddling cult of scientifically illiterate useful idiots - NO DIFFERENT THAN THE FLAT EARTH PSY OP PUSHED BY GOVT SHILLS FOLLOWED BY ILLITERATE UNEDUCATED FOOLS SPREADING IGNORANCE ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA
You do have a leaning towards name calling and criticism. We all need to look at the evidence and find the truth. So far the results of my studies have shown people not to fear a virus and not to take deadly protocol that has proven to kill and maim for decades. The virus theory has spread fear through the populous, caused people to take all kinds of deadly protocol like vaccines, That have never been proven as a benefit for keeping one well. It has brought in billions for proven, convicted and fined criminal organizations called pharmaceutical companies. My view if accepted could put these criminals out of business. They are very beholding to people like yourself that keep their companies afloat, so they can murder millions more and suck billions out of tax payers pockets. Look very closely at your studies and try to determine why these criminals are 100% on your side and those that oppose your statement have lost their jobs, their prestige and sometimes their lives, to bring out the evidence they found. In the end, I support those who care enough about their fellow man to loose it all and you care about supporting a criminal cartel that has never done anything honest in their entire existence.
I notice you ignored a lot of comments that your masters have not provided answers to that require critical thought .
I also see how you wiggle out of specific questions by changing to general unrelated topics ie “ big bad pharma” an obvious paltering tactic of deflection from subjects which you clearly know nothing about
What’s your degree?
You mention studies🤣?
I am interested if you even passed high school biology !!
Like I already posted ( not I alone)
As you conveniently IGNORED
LOOK UP CHICKEN POX PARTIES
Did your no virus masters forget to mention that ?
Or was the Skin Irritation phenomenon only available to only all the children after they attended it , simultaneously ?🤣🤣🤣🤣
NOW EXPLAIN HOW MEASELS - as a skin irritation also affects people who are in the same confined place!
Proceed to explain how EBOLA LASSA , DENGUE etc ( BLS 4)
Function - or is this another skin irritation phenomenon from your deep think tank
Explain how CrISPR tech works and all the millions of people who work on it ( all liars ? )
Explain how you can see viral proteins with electron microscopy and their structures and how viral vectors are used in GmO crops and agriculture Are those millions of people liars as well? Or maybe you are just full of pathetic excuses…
Lastly do not assume that truth has anything to do with the garbage you have been peddling! And I repeat IGNORANT RETARDED GARBAGE - that doesn’t live up to observable scrutiny let alone scientific scrutiny!
I have been exposing frauds like you since the anti science psy op began to take on the ignorant masses post CovidCon like a shit storm on steroids !
YOU LOT ARE THE SAME SHIT PEDDLERS AS THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY - GRAVITY DENIERS - you are either doing it on purpose or you are too dumb to comprehend basic science !
Chicken pox parties sound like pretty good scientific studies with all controls in place. Correlation does not prove causation. Just keep supporting your criminal companies and the criminal government that extorts tax payer dollars keep virology in existence. We know where your loyalty lies. The rest of us will try to keep mankind free from those same criminal organizations and will keep exposing the criminal government that you bow down and serve.
Chicken pox parties - prove exactly that a virus spreads in the confines of space and unrelated healthy individuals aka children get identical symptoms within a given time frame !
The irrational psychotic humorous theory that skin lesions of pox virus is “irritation” is a satirical joke on the gullible fools like you that can’t comprehend simple logic .
I am certain grasping concept of gravity is extremely difficult for your ilk as well
The rest of your comment was a tactic in deflection
I am not supporting any criminal companies you dolt 🤡
I never said I support govt sponsored lies 🐑
Again you deflected and changed topics like a good FE No Virus psy op minion !
All of you criminally insane STEM illiterates follow the pattern of deflection when you cornered with questions your masters have not handed answers to -
So I’ll keep repeating till you answer or stfu !
Repost: “” 👉🏻I notice you ignored a lot of comments that your masters have not provided answers to that require critical thought .
I also see how you wiggle out of specific questions by changing to general unrelated topics ie “ big bad pharma” an obvious paltering tactic of deflection from subjects which you clearly know nothing about
What’s your degree?
You mention studies🤣?
I am interested if you even passed high school biology !!
Like I already posted ( not I alone)
As you conveniently IGNORED
LOOK UP CHICKEN POX PARTIES
Did your no virus masters forget to mention that ?
Or was the Skin Irritation phenomenon only available to only all the children after they attended it , simultaneously ?🤣🤣🤣🤣
NOW EXPLAIN HOW MEASELS - as a skin irritation also affects people who are in the same confined place!
Proceed to explain how EBOLA LASSA , DENGUE etc ( BLS 4)
Function - or is this another skin irritation phenomenon from your deep think tank
Explain how CrISPR tech works and all the millions of people who work on it ( all liars ? )
Explain how you can see viral proteins with electron microscopy and their structures and how viral vectors are used in GmO crops and agriculture Are those millions of people liars as well? Or maybe you are just full of pathetic excuses…
Lastly do not assume that truth has anything to do with the garbage you have been peddling! And I repeat IGNORANT RETARDED GARBAGE - that doesn’t live up to observable scrutiny let alone scientific scrutiny!
I have been exposing frauds like you since the anti science psy op began to take on the ignorant masses post CovidCon like a shit storm on steroids !
YOU LOT ARE THE SAME SHIT PEDDLERS AS THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY - GRAVITY DENIERS - you are either doing it on purpose or you are too dumb to comprehend basic science !
Also the education status and plaques on the wall have no bering on the truth. You are a perfect example of that. I am educated enough to know that I shouldn’t and won’t follow and support the criminals as you do. I have a little morality to follow in my life. I understand that you had to leave that at the door when entering schooling in virology. So your statements and support of criminals is understandable.
I have given you answers and you don’t like them. You are a paid shill of the government. All hospitals and clinics of (virology) a funded by extorted tax payer dollars. The studies on vaccines are tax supported. Without monies extorted from the pockets of the public, your field would cease to exist. You are work for the criminal government and the criminal organizations that steal from the rest of us and then poison those that believe your lies.
Try addressing what I sent you. https://www.bitchute.com/video/QeJIuBv6S3Pn
What abt the Bailey’s?
My view on the Bailey's is that they are constantly pushing false narratives that are completely false and anti-scientific. They also have thousands of followers which makes them more impactful if spreading falsehoods. Truthful reporting is highly important and cannot be understated.
Thank you.
Mafia? I'm one person with no connection to anyone. Most of your posts reek of No-Virus memberhood, 'defender of the faith'. And they're not "Truth tellers"—not by a long shot. Many of them are liars and grifters that are saying the most absurd nonsense imaginable. If they get to claim their nonsense, I also have the right to call it into question.
Just because you haven’t somehow contracted a virus doesn’t mean viruses don’t exist. Whether or not you develop a virus depends on various factors—time of year, weather conditions, the health of your cells, and more. These factors affect whether your cells are susceptible. Only a fool would claim something doesn’t exist simply because they haven’t experienced it firsthand. That’s not science—it’s an assumptive statement with no scientific backing. And are you claiming you've never had a virus in your entire life? If so, that's an impossibility.
Your comment is also contradictory. If your friends and family have had 'CoNViD' and you haven't, are you suggesting they’re lying? What about the flu—do you believe that’s a real virus? Can you explain what causes the symptoms typically associated with viral illnesses?
Also, you emailed me this today,
"sounds like the mafia has threatened truth tellers. or maybe you were DPL ?
why not show your own face and do videos ??
🤔🤔🤔"
Why don't you show your face? No profile picture. I wasn't DPL. Maybe you were DPL? And as for the idea of a 'mafia' trying to destroy the No-Virus stance—there isn’t one. They discredited themselves by lying and distorting the actual science. A small group, including myself, simply pointed out the facts, and they couldn’t refute them.
They’re the ones acting like a mafia, trying to tear down those of us doing real scientific research into viruses and their causes. You’re free to live in a delusion where viruses don’t exist, but you’re wrong—and it’s only a matter of time before you realize that.
It's not just me claiming they exist. Thousands of scientists over nearly 90 years have actually showed them to exist, unequivocally.
"and just bec you claim they exist doesnt mean they do by your own logic."
So, if something exists, we should all pretend it doesn't exist because knowledge of your surroundings personally means nothing to you? Ignorance breeds contempt.